[ivfdf-news] Re: YES 2007 - Who? What? Where? When?
Andrew Swaine
andrew-ivfdfnews at swaine.me.uk
Sun Feb 20 10:05:58 GMT 2005
At 17:38 11/02/2005 Friday, Stephen Brockbank wrote:
>IN response to Andrew's request for what society positions are for
>organising IVFDF 2007.
>There are people in Edinburgh who are currently doing a feasibility study
>into running the festival in the Capital of Scotland.
>
>Stephen Brockbank
>(Nominally New Scotland)
I have had some responses off-list:
* Andy Anderson, formerly of Southampton Red Stags, has pointed out that
Southhampton does not have a society any more, and couldn't use the union
if it did.
* Glasgow have stated that it is impossible due to the strength of their
society.
* More tales of woe regarding the strength of Scottish societies.
No-one has yet said they would be happy to run it, and no-one other than
Stephen has said they're even looking into it.
It seems that, pending an offer, the options are fairly narrow:
* Arm-twist someone like Sheffield or Exeter who have had it very recently
and haven't completely got over the last one yet.
* Arm-twist a weak society into holding it, and risk killing that society off.
* Put together a bid with one person on the ground at a university, but
with the majority of the organisation done by people elsewhere (taking
account of the difficulties people have had when this has been tried in the
past).
* Get a non-university bid together, and risk IVFDF losing its student
focus (although this would be better than it not happening).
In some ways, I am glad I don't get a vote any more, that's not an easy one
to call. One principle I would like to suggest is that we shouldn't force
a society to hold the festival that doesn't have sufficient manpower to
have separate people running the Society itself in parallel.
The key to the survival of IVFDF is the survival of the university
societies (which is of course more important). Ultimately societies come
and go, but, established or emergent, they shouldn't go without the IVFDF
community having tried to help first. Is there anything else IVFDF could
be doing to support emergent societies and societies in distress? For example:
* Formally identifying them as in need of help?
* Providing extra help for those societies running an IVFDF?
* Organising more inter-University events, band tours, etc.?
* Provide direct organisational assistance?
* Pay for halls, bands, advertising costs, etc. where appropriate, out of
money from EFDSS or elsewhere? I believe that if we have the case, the
money will be available from somewhere.
* Produce some "how to run a society" guidance? (Are people making common
mistakes?)
Do we need to have another national gathering of organisers, to discuss
these issues with each other and the societies in need of help?
Apologies to Aisling if we're doing some of these things already and, being
from a stronger society, I'm not aware of it.
Andrew.
NOTE: Acting individually. I haven't been a student since 1999 so I am
quite prepared for current students to tell me to mind my own business :-)
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