[ivfdf-news] Re: YES 2007 - Who? What? Where? When?
jbh2 at st-andrews.ac.uk
jbh2 at st-andrews.ac.uk
Sun Feb 20 21:17:06 GMT 2005
Quoting Andrew Swaine <andrew-ivfdfnews at swaine.me.uk>:
Correct me if i am wrong, but at last year's reps meeting, didn't durham offer
to host it in 2007, or was that 2008?
Jonathan Hall.
* At 17:38 11/02/2005 Friday, Stephen Brockbank wrote:
* >IN response to Andrew's request for what society positions are for
* >organising IVFDF 2007.
* >There are people in Edinburgh who are currently doing a feasibility study
* >into running the festival in the Capital of Scotland.
* >
* >Stephen Brockbank
* >(Nominally New Scotland)
*
* I have had some responses off-list:
*
* * Andy Anderson, formerly of Southampton Red Stags, has pointed out that
* Southhampton does not have a society any more, and couldn't use the union
* if it did.
* * Glasgow have stated that it is impossible due to the strength of their
* society.
* * More tales of woe regarding the strength of Scottish societies.
*
* No-one has yet said they would be happy to run it, and no-one other than
* Stephen has said they're even looking into it.
*
* It seems that, pending an offer, the options are fairly narrow:
* * Arm-twist someone like Sheffield or Exeter who have had it very recently
* and haven't completely got over the last one yet.
* * Arm-twist a weak society into holding it, and risk killing that society
* off.
* * Put together a bid with one person on the ground at a university, but
* with the majority of the organisation done by people elsewhere (taking
* account of the difficulties people have had when this has been tried in the
* past).
* * Get a non-university bid together, and risk IVFDF losing its student
* focus (although this would be better than it not happening).
*
* In some ways, I am glad I don't get a vote any more, that's not an easy one
* to call. One principle I would like to suggest is that we shouldn't force
* a society to hold the festival that doesn't have sufficient manpower to
* have separate people running the Society itself in parallel.
*
* The key to the survival of IVFDF is the survival of the university
* societies (which is of course more important). Ultimately societies come
* and go, but, established or emergent, they shouldn't go without the IVFDF
* community having tried to help first. Is there anything else IVFDF could
* be doing to support emergent societies and societies in distress? For
* example:
*
* * Formally identifying them as in need of help?
* * Providing extra help for those societies running an IVFDF?
* * Organising more inter-University events, band tours, etc.?
* * Provide direct organisational assistance?
* * Pay for halls, bands, advertising costs, etc. where appropriate, out of
* money from EFDSS or elsewhere? I believe that if we have the case, the
* money will be available from somewhere.
* * Produce some "how to run a society" guidance? (Are people making common
* mistakes?)
*
* Do we need to have another national gathering of organisers, to discuss
* these issues with each other and the societies in need of help?
*
* Apologies to Aisling if we're doing some of these things already and, being
* from a stronger society, I'm not aware of it.
*
* Andrew.
*
*
* NOTE: Acting individually. I haven't been a student since 1999 so I am
* quite prepared for current students to tell me to mind my own business :-)
*
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