[ivfdf-news] Re: YES 2007 - Who? What? Where? When?

[Sheffield University Ceilidh Society]

On behalf of Sheffield CeilidhSoc:

In response to Andrew's request for what society positions are for
organising IVFDF 2007.

We as a society are in a strong position attendance wise at ceilidh
events; however the organising committee itself is in a particularly weak
state at present.
We have very few students on the current ceilidhsoc committee (only just
legitimate in the eyes of the University) and it looks very likely we will
be in a similar position at the election of a new committee in a few weeks
time. The likelihood of being able to support an IVFDF organisation
committee and the Ceilidhsoc committee in the forthcoming couple of years
is low; especially given the huge efforts put in by the 2003 crew.

We feel that until the organisational side of Sheffield Ceilidhsoc is in a
stronger position Sheffield will not be able to host IVFDF. This
effectively rules us out of hosting 2007 given the lead time required to
organise the event.


Regards,

Owain Lewis
Sheffield Ceilidhsoc Secretary.


>> At 17:38 11/02/2005  Friday, Stephen Brockbank wrote:
>>> IN response to Andrew's request for what society positions are for
>>> organising IVFDF 2007.
>>> There are people in Edinburgh who are currently doing a feasibility
>>> study into running the festival in the Capital of Scotland.
>>>
>>> Stephen Brockbank
>>> (Nominally New Scotland)
>>
>> I have had some responses off-list:
>>
>> * Andy Anderson, formerly of Southampton Red Stags, has pointed out
>> that Southhampton does not have a society any more, and couldn't use
>> the union if it did.
>> * Glasgow have stated that it is impossible due to the strength of
>> their society.
>> * More tales of woe regarding the strength of Scottish societies.
>>
>> No-one has yet said they would be happy to run it, and no-one other
>> than Stephen has said they're even looking into it.
>>
>> It seems that, pending an offer, the options are fairly narrow:
>> * Arm-twist someone like Sheffield or Exeter who have had it very
>> recently and haven't completely got over the last one yet.
>> * Arm-twist a weak society into holding it, and risk killing that
>> society off.
>> * Put together a bid with one person on the ground at a university,
>> but with the majority of the organisation done by people elsewhere
>> (taking account of the difficulties people have had when this has been
>> tried in the past).
>> * Get a non-university bid together, and risk IVFDF losing its student
>> focus (although this would be better than it not happening).
>>
>> In some ways, I am glad I don't get a vote any more, that's not an
>> easy one to call.  One principle I would like to suggest is that we
>> shouldn't force a society to hold the festival that doesn't have
>> sufficient manpower to have separate people running the Society itself
>> in parallel.
>>
>> The key to the survival of IVFDF is the survival of the university
>> societies (which is of course more important).  Ultimately societies
>> come and go, but, established or emergent, they shouldn't go without
>> the IVFDF community having tried to help first.  Is there anything
>> else IVFDF could be doing to support emergent societies and societies
>> in distress?  For example:
>>
>> * Formally identifying them as in need of help?
>> * Providing extra help for those societies running an IVFDF?
>> * Organising more inter-University events, band tours, etc.?
>> * Provide direct organisational assistance?
>> * Pay for halls, bands, advertising costs, etc. where appropriate, out
>> of money from EFDSS or elsewhere?  I believe that if we have the case,
>> the money will be available from somewhere.
>> * Produce some "how to run a society" guidance?  (Are people making
>> common mistakes?)
>>
>> Do we need to have another national gathering of organisers, to
>> discuss these issues with each other and the societies in need of
>> help?
>>
>> Apologies to Aisling if we're doing some of these things already and,
>> being from a stronger society, I'm not aware of it.
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>>
>> NOTE: Acting individually.  I haven't been a student since 1999 so I
>> am quite prepared for current students to tell me to mind my own
>> business :-)
>>
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